Monday, March 2, 2020. Another Thaw. But, the Loppet was Great!

Mother Nature and Allegany State Park collaborated to give us great conditions last weekend, and the Art Roscoe Loppet was a resounding success.  By Sunday afternoon temps were rising and we are again having a major thaw.  The season was marked by repeated cycles of freeze/thaw, and the lower trails were never more than passable, but ASP did a great job establishing and maintaining base on the upper trails and we had several weekends of good skiing.

The climate scientists tell us that the new normal is that there will be no normal, so we can hope that in future there will be XC skiing here at least some years.  That is as close to optimism as I can manage.

02. March 2020 by Allen Knowles
Categories: Trail Conditions | 77 comments

Comments (77)

  1. Susan-Thanks for your reply. I guess I’ll just have to wing it on arrival.

  2. 2/20/21 All trails are groomed . conditions are perfect. we should get someone to moderate Allegany Nordic’s web site.

  3. Everything is groomed packed powder. Fantastic conditions.

  4. Answering Dan’s question- My guess is they are plowing Bova parking lot because they have been grooming Bova and because someone mentioned to me that he likes to park at the bottom of Bova and ski up Bova and back. He didn’t say specifically that he he parks in a lot rather than on the road.

  5. Yesterday was another great day of skiing at the Park. The surface was packed powder, all groomed. The only thing was the track setter didn’t go deep enough in a few spots. A beautiful day.

  6. Bova Parking Area: I took a quick look at ASP website but couldn’t determine if the Bova parking area is open during the winter. So, before I come down… it open for parking?

    For me, starting at Ridge Run back to the warming hut and then down Patterson would fit me better.

  7. Skiing has been consistently excellent. The park grooms all of the trails every day. We skied Ridge Run and Patterson today and it was fantastic and sunny to boot! Happy V day!

  8. bride, Julie d’Angenne.

  9. Skiing is excellent. Freshly groomed everywhere.

  10. 1/7/21 2;30 pm skied SW ,Christian Hollow and Leonard . Excellent conditions. 18 F. Blue Extra Swix was slipping. Snow has high moisture content. excellent grooming!

  11. You are very welcome Dan.
    For something completely different. We did the Morrison Ski Trail today! It is in perfect condition. Well worth the trip. It is in the Allegany National Forest on Rt 59 at the Morrison Trail parking area. The trail parallels the main road toward Rim Rock overlook.

  12. I wanted to thank Scott just below for mentioning the use of a mask vs hypoxia. Having a heart condition I keep well aware of my surroundings and how long I wear it. Grocery store, no big deal. Movie theater for 2 hours….its a problem due to breathing in your own Carbon foot print for an extended time. Mostly likely any physical excursion I use caution and skip the mask if distance can be maintained.

    I was at ASP this past Wednesday and I only had enough time to ski Patterson and back. Conditions were really nice and applaud the grooming crew.

    Stay healthy as best you can.

  13. Another warning to waxers regarding leaves. seems the steady wind has provided lots of beech leaves. Otherwise fantastic skiing.
    Less wind tomorrow, although in the woods it’s less windy.
    Sunshine almost always makes me….

  14. Another fantastic day of fresh snow and a fresh track at Art Roscoe! Excellent conditions and sun shine is hard to beat.
    It is never discourteous to say hello. It is silly to cover your nose while engaging in strenuous activity. Hypoxia is real.

  15. All trials groomed in the mid-afternoon and conditions were very good on Christian and Ridge in the early evening. Only downside was that our old friends the beech leaves were being blown onto the trail in many places. Should be very good conditions for people going out tomorrow! ASP staff have been doing a great job of grooming all season!

    Please have some courtesy and consider that we can’t leave common sense behind when we are on the trails. I have met very few people wearing masks on the trails. If you don’t wear them, please at least give people lots of space and don’t shout out “Hi” as you go by people two feet from you. A simple friendly wave will do.

  16. There are a few inches of new snow and the groomer hasn’t been out yet. But the base is so good that skiing on Sweetwater was very good anyway. The snow didn’t stick to our skis so I don’t think it got above freezing here and it did not rain.

  17. The groomer was just going out as I pulled in this morning! I had fresh tracks around Leonard & SweetWater and it was excellent. 4 or 5 inches of new snow over night. Everything is groomed. What a season it has turned into!

  18. A few inches of snow overnight and fresh tracks on all upper and lower loops today. I skied Ridge Run and Patterson and conditions were excellent. No icy or thin spots.

  19. Excellent conditions and sun shine! Perfect conditions all the way around Ridge and Patterson. Everything is groomed.

  20. We dodged the bullet. There is at inch or two of fresh on the tracks and the skiing is very good. They had not groomed by the time we left at 1:30, but there were quite a few skiers so it got skied in nicely.

  21. antiquities. These are the Egyptian papyri

  22. A very busy day at Art Roscoe but excellent skiing once again.
    Blue wax was perfect.

  23. I skied the upper loops and it was excellent all over. A little more fresh snow made everything beautiful. The groomer went out at 12:30. They are doing such a great job this season. Get there early it was hard to find a place to park!

  24. A few more inches of snow. All upper trails groomed this morning and are excellent. Haven’t groomed lower trails yet today.

  25. Also, the Red House bike trail has been groomed and looks very good for skating.

  26. Conditions are excellent all over, they were going out to groom at noon. I went down Patterson and back Snowsnake and the snow was excellent all the way. Just perfect.

  27. 6″ new snow at summit at 6AM. Tracks were buried for my first day of the season at ASP but I got in a great double pole workout on Sweetwater. Chad and his mate were departing in the cat at 8AM to groom. We are staring down a fantastic weekend of skiing and more beyond!

  28. We followed the tracker CC on Leonard around 10. Very good. A little more snow and more skiers would make it excellent. All uppers tracked. Looks good for the next few days. This is what we wait for.

  29. The park tracked all upper loops this morning after a few inches of snow over night. We skied Leonard Run. It was fantastic!

  30. They groomed the fresh in this morning and it is perfect. We did Christian & SweetWater. Doesn’t get any better.

  31. It is very good again today. 2”-3” of fresh on the newly set track of yesterday. I did Leonard & Sweetwater. Everything was beautiful with the new snow!

  32. They groomed all the top loops this morning! It is very good everywhere. Leonard, Christian, & Sweet Water. The deep tracks are taken care of.

  33. Snow is very good, drier than yesterday’s grippy surface. Coverage is very good everywhere. But, they drove around and tracked the entire area! This is ruining the skiing. It needs to be groomed out. I did Leonard & Christian, be very careful on the down hill turns.
    Violet wax worked well.

  34. We did Ridge to the turn, not down to the bottom, and it is very good with 2”-3” of fresh. The trails had gotten pretty ski packed. The snow is damp, packy, so it would groom in nicely. Level out the utility vehicle tracks that are on all the trails. Hopefully this storm will give us even better skiing.

  35. Conditions are still very good. The base has set up more but there is still fresh on top of it. I did Leonard & Christian with no problems. No one was just all morning!

  36. The only way it could have been better is if there was a track. Time to enjoy it!

  37. only a few survived.

  38. We were pleasantly surprised with the conditions today! The base has held up very well and there is a few inches of new heavy damp snow on top. We did Leonard and there were only 2 spots that had washed out and they could be easily gotten around. Very good conditions over all, well worth doing.

  39. bride, Julie d’Angenne.

  40. The trails are groomed but no track set. I skied yesterday and the wet snow underneath was frozen hard where groomed. There was 3”-4” of fresh fluff on top that made it good, on the old adjectival scale of poor, good, very good and excellent. The lower sections of the loops are washed out. As a friend says it’s better than in June! The warming hut is open.

  41. Was at the park to hike today and there were four cars in the summit lot and it looked like a decent set of tracks heading out Ridge from a few skiers. Only about 5-6″ of snow and no grooming yet, but looks usable at this point if you want to get a jump on things.

  42. Perfect snow yesterday all over. Cold fine grain and dry. There is a skiers track everywhere and well packed on Sweet Water. No machine grooming.

  43. Great ski weather today lots of snow well over 12 inches on the ground and staying in the 20’s not sure about any grooming? Warmer weather tomorrow.

  44. I benefited from the lot from reading this article, thank you so much for writing such great article, I will definitely follow your blog and read every article you write.

  45. One more thing. The tracks are about gone so better for light touring gear.

  46. We did Sweet Water and out Ridge to the turns. Very good coverage, packed granular some ice spots but not bad. The great grooming is paying off now as we should have skiing for a while now. Well worth a try. Probably klister would be required.

  47. Amazingly good conditions this morning on Christian and Sweetwater. Only the one spring seep on Christian we had to get around. Still a lot of base there that was just starting to soften up. Should still be enough for decent skiing again tomorrow AM if you can make it!

    As Allen said, these last two winters have been tough for skiing, but if you could run out when conditions were good, it was far better than we had a few years ago where I think I only got to ski about 3 or 4 days and instead trout fished a bunch more than that! Think it was only three winters ago when we still had skiing into early April, so if you don’t need perfection in your ski conditions, we probably have a few more years before you need to sell the skis.

  48. The summit trails made for wonderful skiing today. Sweetwater is in good shape, and Christian Hollow and Leonard Run each have one wet spot but otherwise are smooth skiing. Enjoy the trails this weekend!

  49. I agree with Matt. Checking my training logs, in the past 5 years rollerskiing hours have been 2-3 times more than snow skiing. Living almost two hours from ASP and having low traffic roads right out my door, combined with the inconsistent snow base are factors. Having this website, and the great grooming by ASP certainly maximizes the time I do get to snow ski. Thanks again to ASP for prioritizing grooming when the snow finally comes.

  50. Roller skiing is the future. With some nordic skiing now and then as available.

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